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#1 User is offline   Shugart23 

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Posted 2022-February-18, 10:11

Partner and I used to play that if she overcalled the opponent, I would cue-bid to ask her the quality of her overcall. Typically, I might have an opening bid myself and wondering if she was weak or might we have something/game worth fighting for. With a poor overcall, she just retreats, otherwise takes some other action. Is there a name for this convention? I can't recall if this is just something we made up or if there is a write-up on what the follow-up bids are, Thanks
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Posted 2022-February-18, 10:45

This is known as an Unassuming Cue Bid (UCB).

I don't know if there is a standard way of playing it and its usage varies depending on whether a new suit is forcing.

Around my area, it is used by club players similarly to you and it doesn't tend to guarantee support: you may just have a good hand. I suspect these players tend to play a new suit is not forcing and, often, is not constructive.

I think the expert community tends to guarantee support with the UCB.
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Posted 2022-February-18, 11:34

View Postpaulg, on 2022-February-18, 10:45, said:

This is known as an Unassuming Cue Bid (UCB).

I don't know if there is a standard way of playing it and its usage varies depending on whether a new suit is forcing.

Around my area, it is used by club players similarly to you and it doesn't tend to guarantee support: you may just have a good hand. I suspect these players tend to play a new suit is not forcing and, often, is not constructive.

I think the expert community tends to guarantee support with the UCB.



thanks for some reason I thought the UCB was only when the opponent overcalled us.. Thank you. I will look it up
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Posted 2022-February-18, 11:58

View Postpaulg, on 2022-February-18, 10:45, said:

This is known as an Unassuming Cue Bid (UCB).

I don't know if there is a standard way of playing it and its usage varies depending on whether a new suit is forcing.

Around my area, it is used by club players similarly to you and it doesn't tend to guarantee support: you may just have a good hand. I suspect these players tend to play a new suit is not forcing and, often, is not constructive.

I think the expert community tends to guarantee support with the UCB.

Support is guranteed, if you have X available.
In a seq. like

(1C) - 1H - (Pass) - ???

the only practical forcing bid is the cue, so with opening+ strength you dont need to have
support, if partner happens to have min the add. values help you survive if he rebids his suit.

And yes, I would play a change of suit as NF, although constructive.
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Posted 2022-February-18, 13:26

It's more common when we opened, but can apply when advancing too.
I think promising support is almost universal nowadays.
One good writeup that assumes this is here
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Posted 2022-February-19, 06:00

Then it is not an unassuming cue bid.
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Posted 2022-February-19, 07:57

View PostfromageGB, on 2022-February-19, 06:00, said:

Then it is not an unassuming cue bid.


Yeah, I am thinking UCB is when we open and are overcalled.....not when we do the overcall....but I guess it serves the same purpose in that I am asking overcaller to further describe his hand..
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Posted 2022-February-20, 05:52

Some people play this showing a good raise, with direct raises being LOTT competitive. It depends on whether a new suit opposite an overcall is forcing or not. If it is, you can use the cue bid to ahow a good hand with support (almost) all the time. If it is not, the cue bid has to cover cases where you have a good hand with possible game on but no support.
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Posted 2022-February-20, 06:29

UCB(=Unassuming Cue Bid):https://www.pattayab...ingcue_main.htm
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Posted 2022-February-26, 13:23

Ah yes, another term that is not only meaningless, but for which the meaning is different depending on the speaker, leading either to players playing UCB when they've never known what the name means (me, I'm told - note, I play it the "support" way, not the OP's way) or both players of a pair playing UCB and having totally different ideas of what it shows.

Sort of like Good/Bad 2NT, Reverse Bergen, and (at least occasionally) Flannery. The "anti-Cappelletti" (/"Hamilton"/"Pottage"), if you will.
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